Discussion Thunder Tiger Titan X50 - Build Thread - Page 2

skaluf · 08-31-2011, 08:37 AM

Chris,

I'll shoot a picture of the wiring on my X50 tonight. It's totally different than yours, and is not currently using an S.Bus receiver (it will be soon

). Just a different way of doing the install.

Steve

CSpaced · 08-31-2011, 10:03 AM

Cool, I'm curious to see how you did it.

weezbad · 09-04-2011, 10:28 PM

Looks like a very nice machine....hmmm may be in my future

CSpaced · 09-04-2011, 10:53 PM

I finally made up all the ball links, and used a few extra parts to make up a push/pull link for the throttle. I've programmed the swash and levelled it all out, and all that is left is to program the governor/gyro, pitch and throttle curves. I ended up choosing a Hobbico Life Source (PO4) 2100mah 10C battery, which fit perfectly into the receiver tray. I use a couple of these batteries in a 100cc extra 300, and they work great.

I also added some KBDD tail blades, but the stock blades were just as stiff as the replacements. So the build is complete, and once the programming is done I'll be moving on to breaking in the motor and getting some initial testing completed. Once I've completed the review I will post a link up here for you to follow, and it will also be featured on the home page.

The Life PO4 2100mah Battery.

Push/pull pushrods installed (swash level on the head).

120 degree swash level tool.

The completed heli!

CSpaced · 09-04-2011, 10:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by weezbad

Looks like a very nice machine....hmmm may be in my future

It is a very nice machine, super high quality and very well made! I'm very impressed so far, and can't wait to get it in the air.

skaluf · 09-06-2011, 08:25 AM

Looks great Chris, I hope you got her in the air over the weekend.

CSpaced · 09-06-2011, 09:32 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by skaluf

Looks great Chris, I hope you got her in the air over the weekend.

Thanks Steve, unfortunately the weather didn't cooperate over the weekend. I'll probably do a little hovering at the house to tune the motor and then take it to the field this weekend for the maiden.

CSpaced · 09-10-2011, 11:20 PM

Alright, after a little back and forth setting up the push/pull linkages and some programming on the gyro/governor, I've got everything charged up and ready for tomorrow morning (err...at this point I guess it's later this morning

). I'll report back and let you know how it goes!

CSpaced · 09-12-2011, 05:06 PM

Okay, so Saturday didn't go quite according to plan...

Since I've been flying electric for the past couple of years, my nitro starting equipment kinda got neglected. I was using dual nicad packs on my starter (a sullivan dynatron), and after I dug the starter out I discovered that the 8 year old battery packs were totally dead.

So no problem, I'll just use my buddies starter out at the field - right?

Well, we get out to the field and my buddies starter (which was pretty old too), decided that rather than turn over my motor it would rather just burn out some contacts. Three times! We kept taking the starter apart, repairing the damage, and kept trying again. Unfortunately we couldn't get it to run long enough to start anything, so we had to call it quits.

Cut to today, and I'm back from the hobby shop with some fresh batteries. I solder on some new connectors, and now I have a little over 16 volts

. In my driveway the Redline .56 started right up, and after a few tweaks on the throttle trim I had it in the air! I couldn't really do too much because, A) it was in my driveway surrounded by neighbors, and B) there was no wind, so I was asphyxiating myself. So I got a quarter tank of gas through and had to call it quits. I took the time to dial in the gyro gain a little, and plan on taking it to the field tomorrow.

In the mean time, here are some pics from the "failure to launch" day....

raptorbob · 09-13-2011, 07:44 AM

Great pics...Especially the one of the Raptor 50 with the flames canopy! LOL! Kidding aside really nice close-ups. I hate that I am probably not going to make it to the field during the week to see its official maiden. Interested to see what you'll do with the extended flight times compared to your electrics!

novemberalpha · 09-13-2011, 10:16 AM

CSpaced it would be gr8 if you could give us the $$$ spent on your build for both the 720 & X50 so we guys can also get an idea of the hit we r gonna take when wife sees the cc invoice. Mostly looking for why did you choose these components & r there any better options. Honestly I get very confused when buying heli goods due to the upgrades available.

wingspan99 · 09-13-2011, 11:14 AM

You must have been really jonesing to get that X50 in the air! That thing is going to have ridiculous power with that engine!

CSpaced · 09-13-2011, 01:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by raptorbob

Great pics...Especially the one of the Raptor 50 with the flames canopy! LOL! Kidding aside really nice close-ups. I hate that I am probably not going to make it to the field during the week to see its official maiden. Interested to see what you'll do with the extended flight times compared to your electrics!

I dunno if I can take longer than 6 minutes...

Quote:

Originally Posted by novemberalpha

CSpaced it would be gr8 if you could give us the $$$ spent on your build for both the 720 & X50 so we guys can also get an idea of the hit we r gonna take when wife sees the cc invoice. Mostly looking for why did you choose these components & r there any better options. Honestly I get very confused when buying heli goods due to the upgrades available.

I'll have all the details in the upcoming review, but you can pull up most of the info at www.towerhobbies.com. I picked the 701 because I am a long time user and fan of Futaba Gyro's and the GV-1 governor, the 701 was just the next logical step for me as it combines the best of both worlds, plus it integrates extremely well with the 8FG transmitter. As for the servos, again I already use Futaba servos in other helis - plus I really wanted to try brushless!

As for upgrades, no need to worry about them - you don't need any with the X50

.

Quote:

Originally Posted by wingspan99

You must have been really jonesing to get that X50 in the air! That thing is going to have ridiculous power with that engine!

Fingers crossed

novemberalpha · 09-14-2011, 02:35 AM

As for upgrades, no need to worry about them - you don't need any with the X50

.

Thanks for asnwering here in area we get the kit with 4 diff engines tt53 /56 or os 50/55 + two mufflers & not to mention the aluminum & bearing upgrades for the kits I planning to take the plunge but JR Vibe 50NEX is also looking very tempting especialy with the flybarless sytem.

gwright · 09-14-2011, 07:07 AM

What does he mean by saying "extended flight times compared to electric"? Do you really get more than 10~12 minutes? <G>

08-31-2011, 10:03 AM	#17
CSpaced Spam Killer! Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: Oak Ridge, NC Posts: 2,539	Cool, I'm curious to see how you did it. __________________ Chris Mulcahy

09-04-2011, 10:53 PM	#19
CSpaced Spam Killer! Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: Oak Ridge, NC Posts: 2,539	I finally made up all the ball links, and used a few extra parts to make up a push/pull link for the throttle. I've programmed the swash and levelled it all out, and all that is left is to program the governor/gyro, pitch and throttle curves. I ended up choosing a Hobbico Life Source (PO4) 2100mah 10C battery, which fit perfectly into the receiver tray. I use a couple of these batteries in a 100cc extra 300, and they work great. I also added some KBDD tail blades, but the stock blades were just as stiff as the replacements. So the build is complete, and once the programming is done I'll be moving on to breaking in the motor and getting some initial testing completed. Once I've completed the review I will post a link up here for you to follow, and it will also be featured on the home page. The Life PO4 2100mah Battery. Push/pull pushrods installed (swash level on the head). 120 degree swash level tool. The completed heli! Attached Thumbnails 71.7 KB · Views: 1207 63.7 KB · Views: 1163 81.0 KB · Views: 1195 112.5 KB · Views: 1186 112.5 KB · Views: 1177 72.0 KB · Views: 1212 95.6 KB · Views: 1197 92.6 KB · Views: 1184 __________________ Chris Mulcahy

09-10-2011, 11:20 PM	#23
CSpaced Spam Killer! Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: Oak Ridge, NC Posts: 2,539	Alright, after a little back and forth setting up the push/pull linkages and some programming on the gyro/governor, I've got everything charged up and ready for tomorrow morning (err...at this point I guess it's later this morning ). I'll report back and let you know how it goes! __________________ Chris Mulcahy

09-12-2011, 05:06 PM	#24
CSpaced Spam Killer! Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: Oak Ridge, NC Posts: 2,539	Okay, so Saturday didn't go quite according to plan... Since I've been flying electric for the past couple of years, my nitro starting equipment kinda got neglected. I was using dual nicad packs on my starter (a sullivan dynatron), and after I dug the starter out I discovered that the 8 year old battery packs were totally dead. So no problem, I'll just use my buddies starter out at the field - right? Well, we get out to the field and my buddies starter (which was pretty old too), decided that rather than turn over my motor it would rather just burn out some contacts. Three times! We kept taking the starter apart, repairing the damage, and kept trying again. Unfortunately we couldn't get it to run long enough to start anything, so we had to call it quits. Cut to today, and I'm back from the hobby shop with some fresh batteries. I solder on some new connectors, and now I have a little over 16 volts . In my driveway the Redline .56 started right up, and after a few tweaks on the throttle trim I had it in the air! I couldn't really do too much because, A) it was in my driveway surrounded by neighbors, and B) there was no wind, so I was asphyxiating myself. So I got a quarter tank of gas through and had to call it quits. I took the time to dial in the gyro gain a little, and plan on taking it to the field tomorrow. In the mean time, here are some pics from the "failure to launch" day.... Attached Thumbnails Next to my friend Bob's V2 Raptor 128.2 KB · Views: 196 91.8 KB 126.7 KB 85.1 KB 80.2 KB 76.6 KB 99.5 KB __________________ Chris Mulcahy

09-13-2011, 11:14 AM	#27
wingspan99 Coaxial Join Date: Aug 2011 Posts: 21	First flight You must have been really jonesing to get that X50 in the air! That thing is going to have ridiculous power with that engine!

08-31-2011, 08:37 AM	#16
skaluf Futaba Junkie Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: Champaign, IL Posts: 156	Chris, I'll shoot a picture of the wiring on my X50 tonight. It's totally different than yours, and is not currently using an S.Bus receiver (it will be soon ). Just a different way of doing the install. Steve

09-04-2011, 10:28 PM	#18
weezbad killer of batteries Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: darlington sc. Posts: 5	Looks like a very nice machine....hmmm may be in my future

09-06-2011, 08:25 AM	#21
skaluf Futaba Junkie Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: Champaign, IL Posts: 156	Looks great Chris, I hope you got her in the air over the weekend.

09-13-2011, 07:44 AM	#25
raptorbob Coaxial Join Date: Jul 2011 Location: United States, NC, Greensboro Posts: 10	Great pics...Especially the one of the Raptor 50 with the flames canopy! LOL! Kidding aside really nice close-ups. I hate that I am probably not going to make it to the field during the week to see its official maiden. Interested to see what you'll do with the extended flight times compared to your electrics!

09-13-2011, 10:16 AM	#26
novemberalpha Coaxial Join Date: Jun 2011 Location: India, Maharashtra, Mumbai Posts: 21	CSpaced it would be gr8 if you could give us the $$$ spent on your build for both the 720 & X50 so we guys can also get an idea of the hit we r gonna take when wife sees the cc invoice. Mostly looking for why did you choose these components & r there any better options. Honestly I get very confused when buying heli goods due to the upgrades available.

09-14-2011, 02:35 AM	#29
novemberalpha Coaxial Join Date: Jun 2011 Location: India, Maharashtra, Mumbai Posts: 21	As for upgrades, no need to worry about them - you don't need any with the X50 . Thanks for asnwering here in area we get the kit with 4 diff engines tt53 /56 or os 50/55 + two mufflers & not to mention the aluminum & bearing upgrades for the kits I planning to take the plunge but JR Vibe 50NEX is also looking very tempting especialy with the flybarless sytem.

09-14-2011, 07:07 AM	#30
gwright Coaxial Join Date: Sep 2008 Posts: 11	What does he mean by saying "extended flight times compared to electric"? Do you really get more than 10~12 minutes? <G>

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