MSH protos

[Crack kaos!!!]

Just wondering if we could get a section for these helis.. they're going to be a hot item...

Thanks

Crack kaos!

[Sleepyc]

Greetings, Once they come to market I'm sure we can ad them to the line up.
Perhaps post some pictures?
Lets see what this rig is all about!

[Crack kaos!!!]

Well here is a Video of my Friend Eeeeky flying a MSH proto with a stock setup... This heli is Wicked and has a very different belt drive system, The belt drives the main rotor and the tail, with one belt..... :eek:And some pics to go along with it... And i think they are alrady on the market....Check out how fast this heli it... T-Rex 500 LOOK OUT!!!:D

Thanks, Crack Kaos!!!

www.youtube.com/watch?v=HdAOw9i1QG0&eurl=http://www.runryder.com/helicopter/t453809p1/

[CSpaced]

Looks like a sweet heli...

[Sleepyc]

Interesting frame.
Nice Rig. Any more info?

[Crack kaos!!!]

MSH Protos have been out for some time now.. so i think we need a section... lol :D

[buzzsaw]

Nice Freakin Heli bro!

[ericb]

Where can you buy them?

[Wespen]

Best place if your not in USA
www.infinity-hobby.com

Wesp

[ericb]

How about in the USA?

[Crack kaos!!!]

www.readyheli.com has them also.. with or without motor... but the stock motor is pretty much the best motor for it...

Thanks Crack Kaos!!!

[EricW]

I fly one from the moment they were released.
I hope there will be a subforum for MSH over here in the near future.
It's the best performing heli with 425 blades out there Imho, and Not just because i own one :D...

Eric

[lowkey3d]

Sounds quiet with that single belt setup. What batteries do you run in it?

[EricW]

I run Flightpower Evo25 6S1 2500 Mah on a 15T (one-way)pinion.
Rest of my setup:
- Stock Protos 500 with Standard brushless and SAB 425 CF Blades.
- Spektrum AR6200 Rx
- Kontronik Jazz 80 governored at 75-80% (modified with two BEC feeds)
- 3x JR DS3405 MG (sold in EU only) on the swash.
- Spartan DS760 with a JR3500G
- AUW 1550 gram

The easy to adjust beltdrive system works great so far, very direct and smooth.
And the performance is like nothing else, in it's own league imho.


Eric

[lowkey3d]

.......a 15T (one-way)pinion.
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Eric

Eric

Is that right a one-way pinion?

[lowkey3d]

OK interesting design. The main gear is belt driven oneway is on the pinion. I found the manual..

http://msheli.com/Manual/Protos_Manual_rel1.0.pdf

[laughingstill]

Eric

Is that right a one-way pinion?

Yup! I run my Protos with the Kontronics Kora 15-12 on 5s and an 18 tooth pinion and it has monster power. The Motor, ESC, and battery all come down cool.....so cool that I put my lips on the motor after a flight to freak out my friends at the field :D Here is my setup:
Kora 15-12
Jazz 80-6-18 ESC (using the internal BEC)
Ino-Labs 251 MG servos on cyclic
Ino-Labs 261 on tail
GY401
AR 6200 rx
TP 5s 3300 lipos
CF Tail/ Horizontal fin upgrade
Stock SAB CF Blades

[P-Diddy]

Hey laughingstill, good to see you here =)

I just bought a Protos not too long ago from www.freedom-rc.com and I'm pretty impressed. The Protos has actually been out for a few months now and had a really successful launch, hence my purchase. I was watching the RCG forums for all the details for awhile before I made my purchase.

The maker, MSH, (or MS Heli) makes the popular Gorilla Gear for other helicopters, and the Protos comes with Gorilla Gear standard.

This thing has a LOT of power, much more than I'm able to use at the moment, but I'm working on it. I've had to tone down the collective because there is just so much pitch available in the head that it's a little too much for me as of yet.

One thing I noticed is that FFF is FAST, really fast, like a little jet. It can get away from you if you're not careful.

I've heard the RC Helicopter did a review on it, but I haven't seen the details.

MSH definitely needs its own forum here...

-Pat

[tommy boy]

dream heli here...dream heli

[Wespen]

Cmon admins,

Protos subforum please :)

Wesp

[EricW]

I agree here..:)
To many Looooong threads on the net, needless to start another long one, where people get lost reading (or fall asleep) ;)

[lextek]

So is the Protos about the same size as a Trex 500? Awesome looking heli? Love the canopy.

[EricW]

It is the same size as a T-rex 500.
Uses the same blade size, and electronics.
It's about 300 grams lighter though.
Lipo's 5S or 6S for balistic performance, but it also flies great with 7S A123.

[jdanks]

How about in the USA?

WWW.Freedom-RC.com has all of your MSH Protos needs.

[Dutchdude]

Beautiful heli! Really like the design and the canopy! I am however an carbon fiber freak so that is basically the reason i did not pleasure myself bying this heli...

[laughingstill]

How about in the USA?

Pete at www.elektrorc.com gives fantastic service. Check him out!.....Ron

[EricW]

I'm not sure where you live in the NL Dutchdude, but maybe we will meet one day (if we haven't already) so you can see it live.
You maybe change your mind :D

[Dutchdude]

I live close to Zutphen Eric. But please do not show it to me if we ever meet! I cannot afford to buy another heli!!! :)

[EricW]

Hehe :)
I rip the sky around Breda.
I know you can only spend them once ;)
It's not that expensive btw, 290 Eur.incl.CF blades and motor.
Seeya

Eric

[laughingstill]

Still no sub-forum?

[jdanks]

Still no sub-forum?

I am as surprised as you are Ron. This helicopter needs it's own sub-forum. what is it going to take to make this happen? do we all need to PM the admin?

[EricW]

I will if needed, let's start a poll :clap:

[lextek]

I'm thinking of getting a Protos as my second "real" heli. I have a Trex 450 SE V2 now. How does the Protos compare to the Trex 500? Would doubling up on my Trex packs( 3s 2200) be a good choice for the Protos?

[DaySpeed]

I also have a Trex 450 SE V2, looking at the Protos since the beginning on RCG.
I wonder if 8S A123 would be more of a handicap for sport flying, if there is a motor for that setup.

[P-Diddy]

I also have a Trex 450 SE V2, looking at the Protos since the beginning on RCG.
I wonder if 8S A123 would be more of a handicap for sport flying, if there is a motor for that setup.

I don't know if you could fit 8S A123 under the canopy. 7S can be done, and two LiPo 3S 2100-2500 packs fit as well.

[Dutchdude]

http://www.infinity-hobby.com/main/article_info.php?articles_id=104

cf frame........................

[EricW]

Hehe, Your a real carbon freak.
Already saw it, Nice indeed :)

Eric

[Dutchdude]

haha Jep I just looooooove carbon! haha

[Jirik]

Now that you have mentioned carbon.. is there carbon fiber tail boon available?

[lextek]

Sure is Pretty...........

[EricW]

Available:
CF frames (aftermarket)
MSH Carbon fibre boom.
MSH CF frames will be available in time, (are in testing fase)
Here a video of the testing:
Dario testing @ Alpine Smackdown (http://ftp.msheli.com/Video/Dario_Alpine_Smackdown.wmv)
MSH 3K blades are available.

Lot's of things going on :)

Eric

[Crack kaos!!!]

Guys I still dont understand why the dont make a sub section.. This is one of the fastest 500 class Helis.. It is AMAZING!!!!!! :clap: :Craven: :blockhead:

[Dutchdude]

oh no!!! CF goodies!!
must have... must have... hahaha

[laughingstill]

Are the 3k tailblades CF or a composite? Anyone know of some good CF tailblades for the Protos?

[EricW]

Afaik 3K is a composite.
They are just as stiff as Carbon blades though, but much cheaper.
I'm not sure if there are carbon tailblades of that size with a 4mm root..

[Jirik]

Finally a brake in the weather, only moderate wind & no rain.

Flew three flights with Protos, Eagletree logger onboard.
Setup is 7S A123 + 15t pinion.

Any comments on logs?

Has anyone logged 7S A123 and 16t pinion flight?

[broggyr]

I have been doing a lot of looking, sniffing, and reading (not necessarily in that order) about the Protos. I think that is going to be ny next heli, possibly around the summertime 2009.

I have a brand-new set of Futaba S3151 digi servos - would they be OK in this bird?

[EricW]

The S3151 are full size i believe broggyr...I'm afraid they won't fit on a Protos
Here is a list with compatible servos:
http://www.rcgroups.com/forums/showpost.php?p=9799678&postcount=3

Hope this helps.
Eric

[broggyr]

Oh wow, I thought that the 500 would take a full-size -- shows you what I know... :) Maybe I'd be better off selling them, because I doubt that I'll need full-size servos for a long time...

[Crack kaos!!!]

I would Reccoment the Jr 3517's For all 500 Class Helis, They are simply AMAZINGNESS!:cool:

Thanks!

[broggyr]

I am back to the Protos...

Let me explain: I have been doing a lot of pre-purchase research into different helis; electric, nitro, 500, 600, .50, .90, etc. I was looking at all options, trying to figure out what would be best for me. After all is said & done, I am starting to look at the Protos again.

THIS is the insanity part of the hobby. What to choose, what to buy, what to look at...:nothappy:

[JustinMoore12]

Hitecs digital Mgs are a great cyclic servo for the protos. I use a spartan and a upgraded 9650 on mine atm.
Cant believe there is no MSH sub forum.. I am pretty sure a full size servo will fit in the protos, but it is overkill and probably kills the weight advantage of this bird.

[EricW]

I am back to the Protos...

Let me explain: I have been doing a lot of pre-purchase research into different helis; electric, nitro, 500, 600, .50, .90, etc. I was looking at all options, trying to figure out what would be best for me. After all is said & done, I am starting to look at the Protos again.

THIS is the insanity part of the hobby. What to choose, what to buy, what to look at...:nothappy:

:)
If you do not own a heli, this would be a great pick to start with.
Like buying your first car, and come home with a Ferrari ;)
It can take your flying level from "0" to the level you can possibly reach, the Protos will not be in the way IMO.