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Envision
08-19-2008, 09:06 PM
I'm looking forward to a positive experience here. Having a place where ALL AP manufacturers are put on a level playing field.
Although your forum rules took quite a while to read, I like 'em. :D
Thanks,
Troy
Jim T. Graham
08-19-2008, 09:35 PM
The good news is we have had experience at all this with RCGroups.com and FlyingGiants.com. If you ever see anything going South be sure to shoot SleepyC, Toro or I a PM.
dklassen
08-20-2008, 08:40 PM
Greetings Jim. Nice looking new site.
Darrel
Eric Olsen
08-21-2008, 05:02 PM
This is a subject that I will follow closely. I've always had an interest in this that started with astrocam and cineroc.
What platforms are you using and what camera? Anything you would consider unusual you'd like to mention? Maybe any 35MM SLR?
Envision
08-21-2008, 05:32 PM
Last year I had a 90 nitro. To much smoke, sold it.
http://troyraymond.smugmug.com/photos/356393553_LBt4s-M.jpg
A picture from it.
http://www.envisioncreativeimaging.com/photos/256394274_JfnR6-M-3.jpg
I still have a smaller heli to play with though.
This year I have a mast with a remote head.
http://www.envisioncreativeimaging.com/photos/344318355_guYMC-M.jpg
The remote head is also used on my mobile setup for event photography.
http://www.envisioncreativeimaging.com/photos/344359433_7GZJb-M.jpg
Both were used at this auto show. (http://www.envisioncreativeimaging.com/gallery/5608842_DKCeS)
I'm currently building a plane, and looking foward to KAP (kite) photography as well.
I do have a dSLR but currently use a Canon A640 for elevated shots.
Troy
Eric Olsen
08-21-2008, 05:37 PM
Sawesome train shot... Got any more?
Eric Olsen
08-21-2008, 05:39 PM
Could the exhaust be moved aft more without disturbing the CG to prevent smoke?
Envision
08-21-2008, 05:42 PM
It doesn't matter where the exhaust is if your flying backwards for the shot. :D = Oil covered camera.
Electric is the best, Gasser and turbine next. I'm sure plenty of people will start to trickle in here.
Troy
Envision
08-21-2008, 05:44 PM
If you noticed, the exhaust is rerouted 4" past the end of the tail blades. It doesn't help. You could be hovering and if not facing the wind the gear still gets covered. The only alternative is to front mount the camera.
Eric Olsen
08-21-2008, 05:51 PM
Just as you posted that I noticed the exhaust pipe.
Envision
08-21-2008, 05:54 PM
Here's a few of my favorites. Others know this as my first shot. ( I won a contest at APLanding with it).
http://www.envisioncreativeimaging.com/photos/304869231_raiAf-M-2.jpg
Plus some newer ones.
http://www.envisioncreativeimaging.com/photos/307469191_XwGVa-M-1.jpg
http://www.envisioncreativeimaging.com/photos/326308763_dYcXs-L.jpg
Troy
Hellsiege
08-21-2008, 05:57 PM
I use a Hurricane 550 on 6s lipos. Don't have the smoke issue but do have a slight vibe issue still (I know Troy been the prob forever- no time to work on it with plane/mast projects...lol) I did just pick up a new motor so hoping with the new motor and bigger blades it stables up a little as I can't find anything out of wack in the head and it runs fine w/out the camera mount...
Here's a pic of it, looks the same but more foam under camera and a downlink added (got wife excited, she can do something now :) - tilt / shutter )
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v471/Siege22/DSC00659.jpg
*edit*
not trying to advertise, found one w/out tags on it
Eric Olsen
08-21-2008, 05:58 PM
Nice Troy. Is the moon on the last picture in partial eclipse?
Envision
08-21-2008, 08:17 PM
Nice Troy. Is the moon on the last picture in partial eclipse? no, a 10 second shutter from the mast. Slightly over exposed moon so it shows the whole circle.
Hellsiege, Now that you've mentioned something about it flying fine without the mount, It seems like Hogster had something funny happening like that until he shortened the length of the mount legs.
Troy
Hellsiege
08-21-2008, 09:08 PM
Hellsiege, Now that you've mentioned something about it flying fine without the mount, It seems like Hogster had something funny happening like that until he shortened the length of the mount legs.
Troy
I'll have to send him a PM, Thanks like always bud :)
Macsgrafs
08-23-2008, 01:35 AM
I fly a Trex 600E with an Askman mount. Pan/Tilt controlled by the mrs & we use HD video + stills from a canon 40D. The ship is standard out of the box, nothing fancy added.
http://www.macsgrafs.co.uk/rc-heli/helicam1.jpg
Ross
Envision
08-23-2008, 09:35 AM
Very nice, any samples of video/photos?
Troy
500Driver
08-23-2008, 02:35 PM
Maxi II
This picture was taken with our mast...
http://i45.photobucket.com/albums/f84/dsieburg/air2air.jpg
CSpaced
08-23-2008, 03:41 PM
Maxi II
This picture was taken with our mast...
http://i45.photobucket.com/albums/f84/dsieburg/air2air.jpg
Thats a great shot!
Macsgrafs
08-23-2008, 08:36 PM
Very nice, any samples of video/photos?
Troy
Sure Troy, check out a small video (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=azil25zXxiA)
Ross
Envision
08-23-2008, 08:40 PM
Sure Troy, check out a small video (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=azil25zXxiA)
Ross
:eek: Not many people would fly over the ocean off of a cliff. Nice work.
BD Flyer
08-23-2008, 08:57 PM
Sure Troy, check out a small video (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=azil25zXxiA)
Ross
Wow, awesome video!
tonystott
08-24-2008, 02:05 AM
Hi guys, a few familiar faces here already...
Macsgrafs
08-24-2008, 04:38 AM
As a professional photographer I have found that one must capture different angles or it has already been shot :p so that's why I fly over the sea, (I'm also a slope soarer, so I'm used to flying over the sea)the landscapes here in North Devon are superb, but I must admit helicopter wrecking material, I trust my heli even if my heli doesn't trust me :D
Thanks for the comments, I am trying to get out & shoot some more video, but the WX here in the UK has been terrible, we haven't had a summer yet, so I'm grounded for now.
Ross
CSpaced
08-24-2008, 08:44 AM
Sure Troy, check out a small video (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=azil25zXxiA)
Ross
Chasing sheep? This could be a new sport... :D
Cool vid!
Macsgrafs
08-24-2008, 09:01 AM
Chasing sheep? This could be a new sport... :D
Cool vid!
Hey bro, it's Devon & chasing sheep is a form of relief for most of them here :D:D:D If you find one chained to a pole its called a leisure centre :eek:
Ross
Xcellgasman101
08-24-2008, 10:25 AM
Nice site,,, XGM/VGM
GunnyGlow
08-24-2008, 10:30 AM
Hey bro, it's Devon & chasing sheep is a form of relief for most of them here :D:D:D If you find one chained to a pole its called a leisure centre :eek:
Ross
hmm....Where is the barf smiley when you need it!!! ;) Leisure centre......HA......
500Driver
08-24-2008, 03:29 PM
brand new site...didn't take long for it to lead to sheep jokes :)
Macsgrafs
08-24-2008, 06:35 PM
No website worth it's salt is complete without sheep jokes, even the kids can laugh at em :D
Ross
hampilot
08-24-2008, 07:02 PM
http://www.crackroll.com/forums/picture.php?albumid=29&pictureid=388
just getting started in AP, but having a blast. my first stock motor died, switched to the XL motor while I save for a Neu one..
Macsgrafs
08-24-2008, 08:15 PM
That's one wicked looking ship, love the colour scheme. You have a lot of foam on there, does it help much with vibration issues?
Ross
hampilot
08-24-2008, 08:39 PM
Thanks, my daughter and I designed it and had it painted so the old man could see it! the foam works great for my video. I dont use that much when I fly the still cam around. It takes out my shaky thumb syndrome! it also takes up the gap since my landing gear isnt wide enough for the cam mount.
Macsgrafs
08-24-2008, 08:54 PM
That's the key in my book, make sure you can see it at altitude. Might have to try a touch more foam on mine I think, I get vibration at certain RPM.
Ross
CSpaced
08-24-2008, 09:16 PM
Hey bro, it's Devon & chasing sheep is a form of relief for most of them here :D:D:D If you find one chained to a pole its called a leisure centre :eek:
Ross
England sure has changed a lot since I left lol:eek: The most trouble we got into was a little cow tippin' :D
SkyFlyMan
08-24-2008, 10:06 PM
All those pictures are GREAT!
Macsgrafs
08-25-2008, 06:04 AM
cow tippin, I haven't done that for a few months now :p
CS what are you flying out there in the states?
Ross
CSpaced
08-25-2008, 07:48 AM
cow tippin, I haven't done that for a few months now :p
CS what are you flying out there in the states?
Ross
Ross, I'm flying a Hirobo XSpec and Trex 450. Up until recently I was also flying a Hirobo Sceadu 50, that was until I entered a drag race :eek: lol I'm also building a Cobra using Century Swiift mechs. Then theres the planks! Talk about an addiction.... I've been thinking about slinging a small camera under the TRex for fun, I've seen someone else rig one up and it seemed to work pretty good!
HighNear90
08-25-2008, 09:46 AM
Hey guys,
Just checkin in here at the new forum. Here's my setup:
Fuselage GAUI Hurricane 550 stock plastic frame
long boom
metal head
530mm CF blades
Power Scorpion HK3026-1000Kv
23T pinion
68T Front gear
20T Autorotation gear
61T Rear Main gear
7s A123
Camera Askman 30L mount
Pentax Optio S10
I'm setting 4:30 on my timer and putting back 78% (or 1800mah) back into the A123 pack. My headspeed was 1850, but I've bumped up my throttle curve since I had some room to play with. My RTF weight is 7.2 lbs. I seem to like it and it flies great (sport flying) without the mount.
--Leo
Macsgrafs
08-25-2008, 11:30 AM
CS, just go for it, there views are stunning. I've always wanted to do AP/AV, especially when I used to slop soar, I used to imagine the views my glider was getting above the rugged coastline that surrounds my location, now I know. Get a nice cam but stay clear of those flycam things...they suffer with electrical interference really bad, have yet to see a good video from one.
Thats one nice looking ship you ahve there Leo, looks quite mean to be honest. Can you post a few shots for us to see what you have been snapping?
Ross
Eric Olsen
08-25-2008, 04:36 PM
Sawesome shot!
WhirlyGirl
08-28-2008, 09:59 PM
Hi Guys,
Guess I'll jump in on one more forum as well!
Here's my current rig for AP:
T-Rex 600 - stock
6S TP 5000 V2's
JR X9303
Canon A640, sometimes with the wide angle converter
Askman custom front mount
900MHz, 100mW downlink to Eyetops
I get 6:30 for flying time plus landing...anywhere up to 30-45 more seconds and I'm averaging putting back in 72-78%. Not bad, I don't think!
Macsgrafs
08-29-2008, 12:53 AM
Love that front mount WhirlyGirl, looks the biz. Might convert my underslung mount to the same.
Ross
DKTek
08-29-2008, 12:09 PM
Hello guys, I'm getting my gear together still. I travel for a living and currently, I'm in Iraq. I've been getting ready for R/C AP for some time and all of the parts are coming together finally. I've been a Wescam Tech/Operator for a long time working in film and video. I've always wanted to do the same thing with my R/C and now it's finally being realized. I hope to add to this forum when I can and certainly get as much info as possible. Some of you may recognize me from other forums but if not, then I say greetings. I've posted a few pics in my gallery that shows where I'm headed with my gear but my avatar gives a hint. A friend sent me the link to this new forum that looks pretty darn good so far. Good luck.
Eric Olsen
08-29-2008, 12:27 PM
Welcome DKTek. I look forward to hearing about Wescam. A full scale Bell Jet near me has that near me and it looks awesome.
WhirlyGirl that is quite the setup! I love it. Your pictures look like Oregon, is that where you are?
DKTek
08-29-2008, 02:22 PM
LOL! Eric, I think Chica wanted a part of that blade after the crash....
Most of the ENG heli's use our smaller mounts for news. Our film and regular video cams are a bit larger, in the 36 inch diameter range. We've done everything from major feature films, spots, and documentarys to just about every sport ever broadcasted. You name it and chances are that I've been on it from shotmakers, akela cranes, boats, heli's, planes, cables, and a few other camera carrying devices. The work is awesome but I'm ready to give this a try as my current work allows more freedom. I have many contacts in the buisness AND, I understand that there is a difference between the shots the Wescam can get as opposed to the R/C version. There's a place for both, even though the shots seem similar but the execution is far apart.
Qualcity
09-02-2008, 11:33 AM
Envision,
What camera are you using on your heli rig? Thanks!
Envision
09-02-2008, 04:13 PM
Envision,
What camera are you using on your heli rig? Thanks!
Canon A640 with Adaptor for different filters. It's the same adaptor for the Wide angle lens which I also have but rarely use. I do have a dslr, but prefer to use the A640 for flight.
Troy
Straub
09-04-2008, 10:25 AM
Really nice pictures there Envision.
I suppose vibration would be THE KEY issue with AP. Cool stuff guys as a photography buff I can definately see myself getting into this :D
Macsgrafs
10-05-2008, 04:44 PM
Some photos taken with a canon 40D on my trex600.
http://www.macsgrafs.co.uk/aerial/aerial-test1.jpg
http://www.macsgrafs.co.uk/aerial/aerial-test2.jpg
http://www.macsgrafs.co.uk/aerial/aerial-test3.jpg
http://www.macsgrafs.co.uk/aerial/aerial-test4.jpg
Ross
kiwidave
10-15-2008, 10:26 PM
Nice shots Macsgrafs, I am thinking of APing out my Trex600 but not sure yet, what would I crackroll then?? maybe use it as a good excuse to get a Logo600/Actro :)
Cheers!
David
Macsgrafs
10-16-2008, 07:00 AM
Nice shots Macsgrafs, I am thinking of APing out my Trex600 but not sure yet, what would I crackroll then?? maybe use it as a good excuse to get a Logo600/Actro :)
Cheers!
David
Gofor it David, just remember that you need more throttle when flying the 600 with cam, especially when comming into a hover...fun, but scarey at times:)
Ross
kiwidave
10-17-2008, 12:51 AM
Gofor it David, just remember that you need more throttle when flying the 600 with cam, especially when comming into a hover...fun, but scarey at times:)
Ross
Cool, thanks for the info mate, I will keep it in mind if I end up converting the Trex.
Happy snapping mate!
David
Dash C
11-13-2008, 09:08 PM
I can't wait to get into this.. unfortunately I have to wait for $$.. I learned to fly on a walkera 33e. LOL. Plus, Im in school right now.
I keep going between a nitro raptor 30 and a 600e of sorts.. recently found a 600 with elec power system for $380...
but nitro fly's longer.. but its loud, and messy.. but cheaper startup...:blockhead:
...I can't decide..
Envision
11-13-2008, 09:20 PM
If you plan on doing AP then electric is the way to go. Less vibration and you wont ruin your camera with fuel residue.
Troy
ChopperChild
03-04-2009, 12:53 AM
WhirlyGirl,
Can we see more pics of your rig?
HeliHoverAP
06-22-2009, 01:02 PM
Hello People,
Here's a couple shots of our first time at the beach. We're using a Trex 600n with a custom mount made by us. It has unlimited rotation and about 90 degrees of tilt. We would appreciate some feed back. Thanks.
CSpaced
06-22-2009, 01:30 PM
Nice shots!
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