View Full Version : which heli for bigginer?
techi
08-22-2008, 01:37 PM
Is 6 ch honeybee king 2 is suitable for bigginers?
Trex Pilot
08-22-2008, 02:28 PM
yes it will be fine or a Honey bee Fixed pitch, but i would recomend A flight simulater to practice on before trying to fly the real one and ask all the Q's and read all you can before trying to fly, and if you have access to a trainer or a club they will help you out alot and so will all of us here on the forum we will be glad to help you. have fun and practice :)
jolio55
08-22-2008, 09:09 PM
A fixed pitch heli would be fine I would recommend a coaxial heli though along with a flight simulator... The flight sim will help you attempt things you are unsure of or just don't want to do with your heli.
louism99
08-22-2008, 09:58 PM
try to find a used LMH Corona 120 if you can
Showstopper
08-23-2008, 11:32 AM
I would go with a Raptor 50. The small guys are fun but if you are really interested the raptor is the way to go.
Macsgrafs
08-24-2008, 04:08 AM
Firstly get a good sim & put the hours in, I use Pheonix & can only recomend this sim, it's great. As for the heli, go for a large one, they are more stable & you will get a better success rate than a small one.
Ross
DaySpeed
08-24-2008, 01:01 PM
I fully agree with the sim, I have G4, practice with it for a few months and then get an 450 or bigger with a variable pitch tail(no tail motor). I have to say that my Trex 450 setup for 3D, is very stable and fly great, even in the wind (15Km/25 gust).
A coax is so different to fly, I would not get into it. I have one......
NeoGohd
08-25-2008, 10:53 AM
My First was a Walkera 5#10 4Ch. I flew this for about 3 months and then upgraded to a Falcon 3D 6ch. There is a huge differnce for the begginer flyer. Learning the basics on a coaxial is awesome... You can Fly it indoors at anytime.
Going to the Bigger Falcon 3D is a bit of a learning curve because of it's collective pitch.
lawndart
08-25-2008, 05:55 PM
my first heli was a blade cx2.......Good for about 3 days and then i was ready for something bigger. I would definatly spend the money on a good simulator and see how you do.. ....The honeybee is a good heli tho!! just my .02
T28Club
08-25-2008, 06:53 PM
What about the new Blade MCX? Even if you had no sim time? I want to get it just to throw around the house!
CSpaced
08-25-2008, 10:29 PM
Ditto on the sim, its money well spent. Then check out the local clubs and see what they are flying, its much easier to get setup advice from them if you are flying the same thing.
OCD4RC
08-25-2008, 11:59 PM
Ditto on the sim, its money well spent. Then check out the local clubs and see what they are flying, its much easier to get setup advice from them if you are flying the same thing.
Sim.... then some more Sim, then maybe even try out some sim time..... THEN look into a heli. I was hell bent for leather to get me a heli last year. The GENIUS at the LHS talked me into G3 and said "fly for 3 months without crashing and then come back".
First, I know it sound slike a LOT of time and work, especially if your like me, you WANT IT NOW....
Second, You wont regret it.
Third, I agree with the gentleman above, I have aCX2, boering after a week, a blade CP is just not stable enough. That leads you to a 400 size heli like the blade 400 or the venerable Trex 450..... trust me, you will want some sim time before firing up one of the guys.
Bigger = more stable = more $$$ .... but dang there fun.
After a lot of time on the sim, I was on no more than the 5th battery pack when I went inverted for the first time. WELL worth the time on the sim.
ScoobieSnack
08-26-2008, 06:23 AM
Coming from flying planes I found the change to rotary wings is a different ball game all together and not at all similar to 'sticks'. I picked up a Dragonus II Nplus kit a 450 sized 3D capable/upgradeable machine and found the challange of controlling the extra dimension of verticle lift to be a very steep learning curve. So follow any advice you can that comes from 'FREE' locations, like these forums.
I am patiently waiting for a usb conector for my DX6i as key controls inputs are not sensitive enough to simulate the real feeling of getting a heli in the air. As for sims there are free version online like FMS if you have Windows xp or less (does not like Vista) or another one is the 'Pre-Flight' demo, there are a few bugs in this one and I will tell you what the full version is like in a few days.
Oobly
08-26-2008, 07:46 AM
Walkera 4#3B. It's like a real-life sim. Tough little guy.
anduril582
08-26-2008, 12:55 PM
I've been a plane guy for years now, but i got a sim and started playing around with the helis and i love them, though havent bought one yet. I've been reading all these threads but i'm at a real loss as to what to get since there are so many different types and i don't really know too much about about helis. What would be the best solution on a few hundred dollar budget?
DaySpeed
08-26-2008, 02:13 PM
I've been a plane guy for years now, but i got a sim and started playing around with the helis and i love them, though havent bought one yet. I've been reading all these threads but i'm at a real loss as to what to get since there are so many different types and i don't really know too much about about helis. What would be the best solution on a few hundred dollar budget?
A few hundred dollars.....
Since you come from planes, I suppose you already have a Tx. I would go with a Blade 400 without the Tx (EFLH 1475) for around $280 complete. Install your Rx, adjust the whole thing and go fly. Some will say replace the servos and the Gyro but, to start with I think it's a great heli.
tommy boy
08-26-2008, 02:23 PM
A few hundred dollars.....
Since you come from planes, I suppose you already have a Tx. I would go with a Blade 400 without the Tx (EFLH 1475) for around $280 complete. Install your Rx, adjust the whole thing and go fly. Some will say replace the servos and the Gyro but, to start with I think it's a great heli.
+1 on that
JoeSay
08-26-2008, 06:43 PM
Walkera 4#3B. It's like a real-life sim. Tough little guy.
I agree! I just got one of these as my 1st single rotor heli (I have 2 co-ax's) and I also have RealFlight. The combination of sim time and a tough little heli that can be used indoors means learning can occur in doubletime! No need to wait for the weather, or even daylight! You can fly anytime you like! I do most of my flying in the evening after work!
Once I have this little guy down pat, then I might consider a bigger 450 size, but I will have to find a flying field 1st!!!
Cheers
:)
wiley0717
08-27-2008, 09:19 AM
Go sim first!!! I've had both real flight and reflex.... get the reflex, support is free replacement and upgrades are always free as well. Unfortunately there's no "Online" game play that I am aware of like with real flight but you use your own transmitter and that helps with the transition. Sims are the invaluable when learning Heli's!
My 12 year old son went from playing around with the sim (mostly at the hobby shop) on occasion to trex 450 without training gear! I did buy him a Blade CX but that excitement lasted about 5 batteries and it now resides somewhere in the dark crevices of his bedroom. Check the vid below, him getting behind the sticks was actually a joke between a buddy and I as I was poking fun at my buddy (more accomplished pilot than I!) telling him "I bet my 12 year old son could fly better than that". Can't seem to get the player to embed so here's the youtube link
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aGzr4rcQsyU
anatoly
08-27-2008, 10:06 PM
I agree with everyone who said to get a sim first.
That being said, if you have airplane experience, and most importantly if you have trained your left-hand rudder control, then an HBK2 is not a bad heli to start with. It's the heli I started with after two years of flying planes, and I was able to get past basic hover without crashing by following RADD's school. My first crash only happened when I was not thinking, took off side-in and got disoriented.
If you have no RC experience at all, then the HBK2 is probably a lot more advanced than you want to start with, unless you have a trainer and a buddy box setup.
3dflyer88
08-28-2008, 02:39 AM
im for sim all the way. and maybe a coax to play with till you get comforatable with the helis
Ron Rush
08-28-2008, 08:21 AM
The cx2 is great but in two days you will have done all it is good for so you will only learn half the skillsneeded to fly so a good sim is money better spent been there done that i did the sim later and that wasnt the thing to do. now i have a 450, 500, 600 Trex and wouldnt have been able to have any fun with them with out the sim. just spend more money. Also go to the local club find out what the guys are flying esp. the intermeadiate guys cause they will help you more than you will ever know!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Ron Rush
08-28-2008, 08:21 AM
:blockhead:The cx2 is great but in two days you will have done all it is good for so you will only learn half the skillsneeded to fly so a good sim is money better spent been there done that i did the sim later and that wasnt the thing to do. now i have a 450, 500, 600 Trex and wouldnt have been able to have any fun with them with out the sim. just spend more money. Also go to the local club find out what the guys are flying esp. the intermeadiate guys cause they will help you more than you will ever know!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
praetorious
08-30-2008, 12:31 PM
First get yourself in a sim, and spend most of your waking hours in it. I don't think a coax is worthwhile because there is not much you can learn on them.
The HBK2 is a good heli, but parts seem to be a bit scarce due to its popularity. I would recommend the blade 400. It's a great deal, you get a sweet computer tx, and a real tail.
zeta30
09-01-2008, 09:02 AM
I agree with the rest on the coaxial heli's. I had one and was bored with it after a month. It really didn't help me regarding being able to fly a bigger heli either.
You're better off using the money on a Sim.
dicharry
09-04-2008, 11:17 AM
I learned on the HBK2. Very cheap starter heli and parts are readily available and not expensive. Check out JAG Hobbies and Slick Zero. At KA-Planes you can graduate to a Black Hawk 450 or Trex 450 when you are ready. In the mean time, get a big bank account , inheritance, or rob a bank if you plan to stay in the hobby.
sircrashalott
09-05-2008, 01:04 PM
I would get the biggest heli you could afford......you are gonna want one anyway and they are alot more stable for learning the ropes
here is a good free sim....save your money for a good heli
http://www.marksfiles.net/HeliSimRC/index.htm
coptercptn
12-28-2008, 10:09 AM
I have to concur with all the other guys here and say Sim first and always..(to improve) Practice,practice,practice!!!!!
Then buy a good 450 size collective pitch (hard to beat the Trex 450!!) these are stable, predictable helis that will allow you to actually fly them!!! then move up to bigger (bigger ones actually fly even better..they jus cost more when you crash!!)
I have played with a lot of the "Cheaper" fixed pitched/co-axial..etc. and find;
A) very twitchy, hard to control, and if you get them with their radio usually not real responsive...
B) (co-axials fit in here) very limiting, as to how much you can actually fly them and learn any control...
C) pretty cheaply built and fall apart easily in a crash...
So, as in tools, save your money..buy a GOOD Simulator, and then purchase a quality helicopter..Money well spent in the long run...
BLACKHAWK DOWN
02-20-2009, 06:22 PM
I would suggest sticking with stock parts, i know its tempting when you see an all cnc heli for cheap..but thats only gonna cost you in the long run..these are performance parts so when you crash not if.. you'll end up breaking alot more than need be..
just buy lots of spares with whatever heli u choose.
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