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aaronredbaron
06-07-2009, 12:00 PM
I began my FPV learning a few years ago with fixed wing. A GWS Slow Stick becomes plenty of airplane for anyone to handle when learning how to fly by video. After lots of changes and experiments, I upgraded part of my system and moved on up to a Multiplex Twinstar. The Twinstar served me well, but unfortunately, it did not last long. A crash of the Twinstar freed up my electronics, and I decided to make the leap I have been planning for a long time. Flying an airplane by video is challenging mostly because you are constantly turning and trying to figure out where you are. I was hoping with a heli I would be able to move slower, and maintain smoother flight than the airplane.

My FPV heli airframe is an MSH Protos, in part because they are very lightweight, smooth, vibration free, quiet, and can be made very stable, and in part because I had one in working condition! I began by changing a few things in the rotor head. I moved the Bell input out on the Bell/Hiller mixer to reduce the amount of direct swash influence, and installed the paddle weights to increase the stability. I mounted a Helicommand 3D 3 axis gyro to the heli to further help stabilize the machine. The Protos is already pretty full and does not have much room for extras. My solution was to build a plywood box and tray to lower the landing gear, and provide a mounting tray for all of my video equipment. I'm using a stock motor and 18 tooth pinion with a 4 cell 3,850mAh LiPopack to keep the headspeed down around 2200.

I placed the video camera itself, a Sony Webbie, on the battery tray. With a servo controlling the tilt, the camera can achieve the full range of motion to see from straight forward to straight down. The battery was slung under the over-sized Logo 600 landing gear to further improve the stability by hanging the bulk of the weight as low and centered as possible. The final result is a helicopter which is very tame. With a video transmitter downlinking the video signal from the Sony Webbie, I watch the action live in a pair of video goggles which have been modified to my tastes. An On Screen Display from RangeVideo (click here to see the RVOSD) (http://www.rangevideo.com/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=49&products_id=135&zenid=103a04c099f932edbf13d29ed66976f3)provides my view on the ground with a "virtual cockpit" including GPS based instruments and battery data.

Yesterday, I finally got everything on the Protos working, including an extension cable to get the GPS receiver clear of the rotor disk. With some clear weather, I sat in the driveway and went back to the basics. Its amazing how difficult it is to hover from on the model. Even with the gyro to help me, I was limited to short forward hops for my first battery, trying to feel the model out. I suspect it is not going to be practical to hover a model helicopter from the video, although if I can get the Helicommand position hold mode working, I will be able to rely on that for low hovers. I will, however, have far too much fun flying the helicopter around under the hood at a moderate altitude. Today, I am going out with some friends to do some flying, and we will see how the Protos FPV setup fares.

When Flying FPV, there are several things to remember.

-To qualify for AMA, you must use a buddy box when you are flying by video
-A spotter is critical. It can be your back up pilot on the buddy box, but you must have someone telling you where you are.
-You need way more room that you need for normal RC. Flying by video its hard to judge distance, and you cover a lot of ground.

aaronredbaron
06-07-2009, 12:49 PM
I can't hack software, but I can hack the hardware like there's no tomorrow! 0:)

CSpaced
06-08-2009, 03:47 PM
Thats awesome!

Wouldn't it be cool if you could set up two camera's side by side, and have each one feed into one of the eye pieces on your video goggles to get a stereoscopic effect, giving you some depth perception? ;)

aaronredbaron
06-09-2009, 11:00 PM
success! I have two flights under my belt! As I suspected, its way harder than flying a plane by FPV. I am trying to figure out some editing software, and I'll get the vid up. Unfortunately, I tried to use the 1080 mode and got a very bad wavy thing going on, but I did the flights completely watching my video goggles. :)

aaronredbaron
06-22-2009, 01:45 PM
here is a flight with my board cam....
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=whJqb910ArA

CSpaced
06-26-2009, 02:19 PM
Nice vid! Looks like a good flight. What was the mah counter in the upper left? Was it counting how many mah's you had used?

Projectx
06-26-2009, 03:12 PM
I bet if you tried to 3d with that on you would need to have an air sickness bag near you.

That looks like it would be pretty cool

aaronredbaron
06-26-2009, 06:20 PM
Yeah, we'll see about aerobatics on this machine :eek:
The counter at the top is my mAh, and the meter below I set to 3000 mAh, of 4000 available. Its basically my fuel gauge and appears to be working fairly accurately based on how much I have been putting back in. below that is the fuel gauge for the 3 cell pack I use for the video accessories. good stuff ;)

aaronredbaron
07-05-2009, 03:15 PM
well.. I bought a different HD camera for my setup. The Sony Webbie turned out to be terrible for my uses.
here is my camera
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0...3VXT017D2Q096KM

I have come to the conclusion I am going to need a wide angle lens on my HD camera for this to work. Despite the board cams limitations, it gives me a really nice field of view, and I can orient myself easily. With the HD cam, its like its zoomed in, and I can't see where I am. The HD cam is really good for my uses, however, because it uses only SDHC cards for memory, and it has a standard 4 pin jack for the standard AV out, which does work while you record in HD. The flash memory should be robust and eliminate vibration concerns I had about the hard drive based cameras. The JVC uses AVCHD format, which I am finding to be a pain, has anybody ever messed with it? I also don't get how the format can be AVCHD, H.264, and MPEG 4 all at the same time, but it won't play on any player I have off the camera, it has to go through the JVC software. The software will convert it, but its lower quality when it comes out the other side. I tried a sample of a converter I have to pay for, and it seemed to work much better... but I'm venturing into new territory with all of this. I was so happy with my old Canon tape cam and Pinnacle on my old laptop, but it won't work at all with this HD stuff :(

here is the wide angle lens I am looking at
http://www.amazon.com/Digital-Profe...46822803&sr=8-7

Thoughts anyone?

aaronredbaron
07-08-2009, 10:35 AM
well, back to the board cam for now, but I added tilt with head tracking to the mix :)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LDABFLo9bkU

aaronredbaron
07-27-2009, 07:34 PM
another flight, this one represents the best landing I have done yet!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XFrECUnVnrU

cmulder
08-21-2009, 08:50 PM
i would recomend to upgrade the helicommand (send it in to the guys in germany) to the rigid version.
I fly a robbe eolo/ m8 /r22 with the rigid and the simpler head makes reducing vibration ect a lot eazier and the heli becomes more durable too.
the coversion i did was as eazy as removing the mixing levers from the blade grips and bolt a bal link in place instead (with a small tube as spacer over the bolt) and hook up the 2 links to the swash.

aaronredbaron
08-22-2009, 10:23 AM
I fly a vbar- I am fully aware of the benefits of going flybarless. However, I was taking advantage of equipment I have on hand. I have no intention of tearing my setup apart at this point and having to wait to ship it to Europe for the upgrade. I primarily only went with the Helicommand on this setup to use the position hold feature for low hovers. The Protos is very smooth and with the paddle weights installed, its very stable. Any shakes you see in the vid are from the ghetto camera mount I have which has withstood numerous crashes on numerous airframes ( its a board camera CA'd to a HS 55 servo)

jairoblaster
11-18-2009, 09:17 PM
hey aron what are you using for your down link and how much $ did it cost.