Swift 16 Build

[lowkey3d]

Hey Guys

I bought this kit back at the beginning of summer. It's sat on a shelf as I collected everything I needed
to complete the kit. I now have everything and I'm about ready to start. The bench needs a little clean-up
before I jump in..

[Sleepyc]

Yea man BRING IT!

[CSpaced]

Awesome man, this is the very same kit I have to put into my Cobra. What are you using to power it? Details details! So far all I have is the kit itself.

http://www.crackroll.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=781&d=1219263913

[MaxAdventure]

definitely interested, I've thought about picking this one up...

[lowkey3d]

Guys this build will be delayed because of Tropical Storm Fay. :mad: I have to attend to water
intrusion in my home office and my workbench just got covered in office stuff. This is going to take
a while to sort out. Bear with me.

I'll let you know what I have on hand for the build.

Motor: Century 600A+
ESC: Castle Creations 60 amp ESC
BEC: Castle Creations BEC
Batteries for now are: TrueRC 6S.
Charger: Kong Power 6s Charger KP-100W6
Servos for swash: Hitech 6965
Gyro: JR G770 3D
Tail servo: JR DS890G
Cali Graphics graphics for canopy.
Bling:
Century triple bearing upgrade.
Century CNC tail case
Century CNC Motor Mount.
Century CNC Horz fin mount clamp.
Century CNC Main Rotor Hub

Still on the fence about running separate receiver battery. Some people use one to get the heli to balance.
If so I have 2S lion with the CC BEC.

[CSpaced]

Best of luck dude, we'll be here when you're ready!

[Sleepyc]

YEa I really hope that storm STAYS a storm and nothing more.
Good LUCK!

[lowkey3d]

Thanks

I'm good, :D

I just hope my planker FFAA brothers from Daytona stay dry. Lots of flooding..:(

[Petey]

Great performer you wont be disappointed. Parts are inexpensive as well.

Here is a great link for more tips.

www.swift-tuning.com

Enjoy.

[Cloud Cruiser]

Hey Guy's, I'm also building a new Swift. I'll post some pictures as I go.
It's going to be HV setup.

Scorpion HK-4025-740
CC HV-85
10s or 12s A123's
550 blades


Robert

[lowkey3d]

Ok, I got the bench cleared and got a little time to start.

Here's the hub and blade grip layout

[Cloud Cruiser]

Here's my progress so far.

Robert

[CSpaced]

Dude - where'd you get the metal components?

[Cloud Cruiser]

Dude - where'd you get the metal components?

I got them here, https://www.fxaeromodels.com//index.php?cPath=49_190_193&sort=2a&page=3&osCsid=129d8e3d237b1762fcf816f3bea35dad

Robert

[lowkey3d]

Bling, Bling... Yeah!!!:D

[CSpaced]

I got them here, https://www.fxaeromodels.com//index.php?cPath=49_190_193&sort=2a&page=3&osCsid=129d8e3d237b1762fcf816f3bea35dad

Robert

Thats a blast from the past, I haven't been to that site in years, not since my Ikarus Eco 8 days! Nice to see it going strong!

[Cloud Cruiser]

Here is SwiftZilla's new shoes. Maybe she will grow into them!;)


Robert

[Cloud Cruiser]

I have been working on my packs today. Here is three removed from the dewalt case's.

Robert

[Petey]

I have been working on my packs today. Here is three removed from the dewalt case's.

Robert

what configuration you're going with?

[Cloud Cruiser]

I'm mounting the electronics tray vertical, and I'm trimming it off so its not to tall. Then I'll mount 10 cells to the front of that with a small bracket and velcro straps. Then I'll mount 2,3, or 4 cells on the bottom battery tray. I'll post some pictures soon.

Robert

[Cloud Cruiser]

Here's one of the finnished 10s packs.

Robert

[lowkey3d]

Cloud Cruiser

Do you have any knowledge on a 82 A123 setup on the Century 600+ motor. I'm thinking this
would be a alternative to running 6S lipo. I don't know if the 600+ will handle 10S A123.

Carlos

[Cloud Cruiser]

Cloud Cruiser

Do you have any knowledge on a 82 A123 setup on the Century 600+ motor. I'm thinking this
would be a alternative to running 6S lipo. I don't know if the 600+ will handle 10S A123.

Carlos

I have read that some guys use 7s a123's with the 600+, but I don't think the 8s would be safe. It definately would not handle a 10s pack. I'm going to use a Scorpion 4025 motor and a castle hv-85 esc, so I'm covered. I've not worked on it much in 2 weeks. I plan to work more on it this week. I think I may be modding to many things on this one. I'm having to think too much! "LOL"


Robert

[Cloud Cruiser]

I worked on the motor today. I had to grind a flat spot for the pinion set screw.

Robert

[Cloud Cruiser]

A few more pictures

Robert

[JustPlaneChris]

Looks great! I'm anxious to hear how that Scorpion performs. :)

[lowkey3d]

Cloud C

Did you use a little shoe goo on the outside of the bearings to keep them from slipping. Just wondering
how many folks do this.

Carlos

[JustPlaneChris]

Carlos, I did it on my Swift build. She's been in the air for just over a year, and still runs great.

[Cloud Cruiser]

Hi Carlos, Yes I used it on my bearings as well. I had a couple of bearings on this new build that absolutely would not stay in unless I did use it. It's a little messy, but take your time and the results are well worth the effort.

Robert

[lowkey3d]

Finish, One test hover hop.. Had one of my M3x12 screw heads pop on the tail transmission case
for some reason. I think I cranked on it a bit much. Anyway, I could not get the rest of the screw
out of the transmission case and had to order another transmission case.

Next flights are to capture some Elogger data..

[Cloud Cruiser]

Finish, One test hover hop.. Had one of my M3x12 screw heads pop on the tail transmission case
for some reason. I think I cranked on it a bit much. Anyway, I could not get the rest of the screw
out of the transmission case and had to order another a transmission case.

Next flights are to capture some Elogger data..

Congratulations!!!:clap:

I've been at a stand still on mine. I hope to have it going soon. The transmission case screws are junk. Your new one will probably have socket head screws in it.

Robert

[lowkey3d]

Congratulations!!!:clap:

I've been at a stand still on mine. I hope to have it going soon. The transmission case screws are junk. Your new one will probably have socket head screws in it.

Robert

You know, I thought the socket head screws were a mistake.:confused:.. I wonder if I can swap them
after using the self tapping screws.

[lowkey3d]

You know, I thought the socket head screws were a mistake.:confused:.. I wonder if I can swap them after using the self tapping screws.

Yup, they work much better..

[lowkey3d]

Hey Guys

The DX7 has expo on throttle and pitch curves. Do you guy's use it?

[JustPlaneChris]

I use EXP on the pitch curves in my X9303. Seems to smooth out the response just a bit.

[lowkey3d]

Chris,

I'll play with expo and see if I like it.

BTY, I enjoy the Podcasts. Keep'em come in..:D

[Spidious]

Try 30% expo and it won't be so twitchy trying to hover it...

[lowkey3d]

Some more hovering today. On my last attempt one of my flybar paddles departed the flybar. Lucky
I was able to set down before things got ugly. Boy did she dance like a chicken. I really never liked
the stock paddles. Is everybody else still running stock paddles or have you gone to the upgraded versions.

Was thinking to go to the 4mm flybar and 620Se paddles.

[lowkey3d]

BTY .. Expo on pitch curve works great..

[JustPlaneChris]

Some more hovering today. On my last attempt one of my flybar paddles departed the flybar. Lucky
I was able to set down before things got ugly. Boy did she dance like a chicken. I really never liked
the stock paddles. Is everybody else still running stock paddles or have you gone to the upgraded versions.

Was thinking to go to the 4mm flybar and 620Se paddles.

Yikes, that's scary! I've never had that happen (or heard of it happening) with the stock paddles. You can also use the Thunder Tiger "Greenie" paddles on the Swift. They make the cyclic a bit softer, plus they have setscrews to retain them.

[lowkey3d]

Yikes, that's scary! I've never had that happen (or heard of it happening) with the stock paddles. You can also use the Thunder Tiger "Greenie" paddles on the Swift. They make the cyclic a bit softer, plus they have setscrews to retain them.

I installed and removed the paddles several times during the build. The only thing that I can think of
is that I may have cross threaded the paddle and the CA was not enough to hold. :headinthewall:
All the threads are gone inside the paddle. lucky I had just spooled up and was only a few inches of
the ground. Saw something spit and slammed her down.


I just ordered some greenie's.. :D

[lowkey3d]

I tried the Green Thunder Tiger paddles and they caused a slight vibration in a hover. Checked
the weight of the paddles on a gram scale and they were exact. I swapped to original swift 16
paddles and the vibration seems to be gone. I didn't like the feel of the greenies either. They
felt a little less responsive v.s. using the stock and I felt like I was over correcting most of the time.

[JustPlaneChris]

Yep, the greenies are definitely less responsive. If you had any expo programmed in, you do not need it with the greenies! Interesting you mention the vibration, I've noticed a slight vibration with mine too. As you say, they balanced perfectly too. It was very noticeable when I did my first AV attempt with the Swift, and I switched back to the stock paddles to eliminate it. Here are the vids:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u52OREVe6vM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5hdiQK1Ebm4

[lowkey3d]

Chris

Very cool video.. I noticed your heli is much more tame when those blades spin down.. My Swift jumps
around like a chicken with hot feet... What blades and head speed were you running?

[JustPlaneChris]

That was some cheap Helidirect woodies ($19). Head speed was about 1800. The real secret to the lack of the wet dog shake is that I'm not using stock landing gear! I have Hirobo Sceadu struts and skids on mine, which are much lower and stiffer.

[lowkey3d]

I found away around the chicken dance.

In normal mode I have 3 degrees or so of negative pitch at low stick. If I spin down in normal mode
the heli does the chicken dance vibration. :mad: Because it takes so long for the blades to spin down.

But, If I land the heli and leave the thottle just below mid stick I can hit thottle hold then pull the throttle down and use the -10 degrees of pitch to slow the blades with no vibration.:p

[lowkey3d]

UGG... Last two outings with the Swift and two crashes. Both out of my stupidity.

The first, I failed to give full negative pitch after landing and I looked down at my radio
and must have pushed let aileron and she rolled over. Main gear munched and trashed blades
and one blade holder

The Second, I forgot to tighten up some side pay in the flybar after the last repair. Spun her
up and was startled by a bad vibration near mid stick. Hit thottle cut and the bird popped 8 feet
into the air scaring the hell out of me. Needless to say this was my first failed auto.. trashed
a blade and and the landing gear. Was really lucky with this one could have been worse..:blockhead:

Anyway I was ordering part and found there is a new landing gear out for the Swift.

http://www.heli-world.com/detail.aspx?ID=6533