Mini Titan E325

[theKM]

Needed to start the ball rolling on this fantastical 450 sized heli...

http://keyboardmonkey.com/titan/titan_04r.jpg


...my particular bird is down for just a few days longer as I await new motor and speed control. Previous motor wasn't quite up to the amps.

[maybz]

Sweet. I just got the Super Cobra scale conversion for mine. Let me know if anyone is interested in seeing a quick review of it.

[ozjet]

i wouldnt mind a look at that

[jcopter]

I'm getting ready to build mine rite now
Iwould like to see your review also.
Jcopter

[evlfkrjohn]

I guess i'll put mine out there! I had some raptor stickers laying around from the e550 and I liked the way they looked on the mini. So its now a "mini raptor" I don't know if anyone else has noticed but the stock tail drive pulley (on the tail shaft) is very un-round on mine and is giving me a serious vibration in idle up(around 2800rpm) I already have the bounce effect(but it sum-what goes away in idle up) (http://www.rchelimag.com/forum/showthread.php?t=4635) so thats not the problem. I was just wondering if anybody else's is out of round as bad as mine?!

[Blusaber]

Hi guys

Nice to have another forum to learn from

Here's mine. I really like this heli even with the hs-55 on cyclic it flys great.

Scorpion 2221-8, Scorpion esc, Radix blades. ar6100, 2100t with 9650 on the tail and Canomod can Because I have Zero painting skills:)

Gary

[theKM]

Sweet birds guys. I need to get into making my custom canopy, the stocker is starting to wear on me and your birds are looking pretty fine indeed!

Actually, complete radio loss had me plant the Titan straight in like a lawn dart, so maybe now is as good a time as any for that new canopy! :)

I don't have a pic of the crash, but I do have my eagle tree graph ;) ...


http://keyboardmonkey.com/titan-oops-graph.gif

[Blusaber]

WHOA

Sorry to hear that KM. What receiver and radio were you using? Do you have any idea why the lock out?

Lawn darts are not cool last one I did was straight into the deep end of the pool (king v2) thats when I got the mini

Gary

[theKM]

WHOA

Sorry to hear that KM. What receiver and radio were you using? Do you have any idea why the lock out?

Lawn darts are not cool last one I did was straight into the deep end of the pool (king v2) thats when I got the mini

Gary

Futaba 7C and a 7 channel berg. I think there's a problem area with that particular section of the field... I may have also been pointing the antenna at the heli at the time. I need to do some investigating as to what it could be. There may be a dish pointed right through that area and I hit a focal point or resonance or something. Either way, same result. I wasn't horsing around doing anything stupid, just general FF around the field's perimiter... but coming back across one corner it's common to get a hiccup (which means that I should have done something about it before this). This time it took the bird with it.

But the damage was minimal, which surprised me: Flybar, main gear, canopy, landing skids. That's it. One of the tabs that the landing gear screws to came off, but that'll just glue back on. The radix blades and everything are fine. I'll call being lucky on this one, i doubt the next incident will come off so cheap :) :rolleyes:


I've recently upgraded to a 9C Tx, when I get the parts I'll put the time in to set up the heli in that... maybe it has a bit more transmission power, it certainly has a thicker antenna (like the older style quality futaba sets had).


...darting into a pool would certainly be worse. Don't think most heli guys protect with CorrosionX like the water plane guys do ;)

[Blusaber]

well thats pretty good equipment to have gotten shot down. I went to the dx7 just for the short antennas on the receiver :D but before that I had the Berg and liked it.

Ya should have seen the smoke when I fished the heli out of the pool fried the esc Gyro,rec, motor all survived . Wish I could have seen my face at the moment of impact :blockhead:


Gary

[theKM]

well thats pretty good equipment to have gotten shot down. I went to the dx7 just for the short antennas on the receiver :D but before that I had the Berg and liked it.ya, should be above the "junk" category at least.

Ya should have seen the smoke when I fished the heli out of the pool fried the esc Gyro,rec, motor all survived . Wish I could have seen my face at the moment of impact :blockhead:if it flailed around like they do on the ground, that would have been an interesting sight! :)

[evlfkrjohn]

Well there won't be any flyn for me for atleast a week!:( We have another hurricane headed to us! Katrina wiped out my home(along wih $10,000 in r/c) 3 years ago this weekend with 8 feet of water! So all I can do is read about everyone else's adventures for now. I packed all my r/c up in plastic tubs and put it in my attic. I need you guys to keep me intertained until it passes:clap:

[theKM]

Well there won't be any flyn for me for atleast a week!:( We have another hurricane headed to us! Katrina wiped out my home(along wih $10,000 in r/c) 3 years ago this weekend with 8 feet of water! So all I can do is read about everyone else's adventures for now. I packed all my r/c up in plastic tubs and put it in my attic. I need you guys to keep me entertained until it passes:clap:that's a bummer. If you want entertainment, rock on over to therightstick.com (http://www.therightstick.com)! :D ...should at least kill 41 minutes for ya ;)

I wont have heli entertainment myself until the AMainHobbies medic kit arrives... will have to put up with plankage flying until then.

[evlfkrjohn]

that's a bummer. If you want entertainment, rock on over to therightstick.com (http://www.therightstick.com)! :D ...should at least kill 41 minutes for ya ;)

I wont have heli entertainment myself until the AMainHobbies medic kit arrives... will have to put up with plankage flying until then.

Speaking of a main hobbies, I have ordered several items from them and have yet to have a problem! They are truly a reliable parts source. I did get a good deal yesterday though. I ordered the alluminum tail shaft with pulley from ready-heli and got it for $9.17 shipped! I hav'nt found anyone else who could beat that price!

[helitaiwan963]

This heli is the BEST heli i've flown:D I love it!

[Power Up]

Needed to start the ball rolling on this fantastical 450 sized heli...

Your title pretty well sums it up. Terrific Heli!! Here's mine :).

[theKM]

Nice birds there Power Up!


I've been soundly wringing mine out. Yesterday though I was going a tricky new move that was a cross between a take-off, a tic-toc and a complete screw-up... I swear the big green-blue planet came out of nowhere!

...it's a sturdy bird. The two times that she's hit the deck on me it's stood up to it remarkably well. New shaft, flybar and main gear and it'll be going again.

[evlfkrjohn]

Have you guys seen either of these:

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT&item=230286595127

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT&item=180285236025

[evlfkrjohn]

that's a bummer. If you want entertainment, rock on over to therightstick.com (http://www.therightstick.com)! :D ...should at least kill 41 minutes for ya ;)

I wont have heli entertainment myself until the AMainHobbies medic kit arrives... will have to put up with plankage flying until then.

Well we survived! Not a damn bit of water, and no wind damage either!! I got the metal tail pulley I ordered for the titan in the day before the storm hit:rolleyes: I taped it to the skids just so I would'nt lose it. Now maybe I can get everything back out and get in some flights this weekend!:D

[theKM]

Have you guys seen either of these:

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT&item=230286595127

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT&item=180285236025

The guy selling the main shafts posted into RCGroups... I have 4 on the way, so I'll be finding out soon enough.

As for the carbon blades, the price puts them in the range of the cosmetically flawed radix blades, so I'd prolly be going radix's instead (currently have flawed radix blades on my bird, and they're quite awesome).

[theKM]

Well we survived! Not a damn bit of water, and no wind damage either!! I got the metal tail pulley I ordered for the titan in the day before the storm hit:rolleyes: I taped it to the skids just so I would'nt lose it. Now maybe I can get everything back out and get in some flights this weekend!:D
awesome! now you can get back into flying them toys :)

[evlfkrjohn]

The guy selling the main shafts posted into RCGroups... I have 4 on the way, so I'll be finding out soon enough.

As for the carbon blades, the price puts them in the range of the cosmetically flawed radix blades, so I'd prolly be going radix's instead (currently have flawed radix blades on my bird, and they're quite awesome).

Let us know about the shafts though! I thought the same on the blades but just threw them out there anyway.

[evlfkrjohn]

awesome! now you can get back into flying them toys :)

I know, I was going nutz sittin around waitin for all the weather to pass:blockhead:

[theKM]

anyone know if the individual parts of the Kasama head system is compatible with the individual parts of the OEM head?... like, can you just use the kasama mixing arms with the OEM plastic, etc?

I did in some arms in my OEM head on saturday, considering swapping in metal parts as needed or just going the whole hog on the kasama head.

[RatJr15]

Here's mine... Had a T-Rex 450 and got this off a friend... T-rex is up for sale and havent touched it since!

[theKM]

Here's mine... Had a T-Rex 450 and got this off a friend... T-rex is up for sale and havent touched it since!

That's a cracking bird with a spiffy metal head. I'm considering a Kasama head upgrade as I did in some mixing arms the other day.

[theKM]

Here's mine... Had a T-Rex 450 and got this off a friend... T-rex is up for sale and havent touched it since!

what's that metal head like on the Titan?... fly well?...

[Dash C]

I'm in the market for a 450 size kit..
I currently fly a walkera 22e and have slowly been buying parts to upgrade to a 450.

any reason this bird can't fly with a 4200kv inrunner w/ a 25 amp esc?
the esc i bought is rated for the motor, but strangely, they recommend a smaller motor with a 35/40 amp esc.
- its a bit confusing -

I haven't read of any issues with this heli.
anyway. talk me into this thing. it looks decent and the kit is a descent price.
Im also looking at the HBK2 and Trex450 or Trex clone.. though the later is too pricey for me

[dude_109]

Dash,

The kv rating is somewhat appears to be backwards if you just look at the number. Generally, bigger helis will use smaller kv numbers. However, the wattage is what you should really look at. For a 450 sized heli and using 3S lipo, most are using between 3000 and 3800kv motors.

HBK2 is a smaller class than a 450 heli so thus the price difference. So it wouldn't be fair comparing HBK2 and Trex.

I currently have a CopterX450 (very good TRex clone) that I got at a great deal on but what I really wanted is a MiniTitan. Soon, I'll have both :)

[Dash C]

might I ask where you got the great deal on a copterx450? I've also considered them..
I've heard exi are something to stear clear of..

isn't the mini titan a bit smaller than a 450?

[Jirik]

isn't the mini titan a bit smaller than a 450?

Someone correct me if I´m wrong.. But I think Minititan is actually a bit bigger than Trex 450.
Rotor head is wider -> bigger disc area with same blade length etc.

[Dash C]

Someone correct me if I´m wrong.. But I think Minititan is actually a bit bigger than Trex 450.
Rotor head is wider -> bigger disc area with same blade length etc.

I just checked what specs I could find...
It appears to be the same size.... like maybe 1/4-1/2 inch difference.. hardely anything.

I think the titan is heavier though.

..I think this bumps the titan up over the 400.. man this is tough to decide..
plus, I noticed that amainhobbies has the minititan kit for like $114 right now..

[growmaster4]

some pics of my mini titan.i love this bird.stock motor.jr ds285s 3400g,401,sk 360 gaui flybarless head.http://www.crackroll.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=2206&stc=1&d=1226645096http://www.crackroll.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=2207&stc=1&d=1226645096http://www.crackroll.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=2208&stc=1&d=1226645096http://www.crackroll.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=2209&stc=1&d=1226645096

[eddr50]

NICE! growmaster..I may have to have one:D

[theKM]

that flybarless is indeed spiffy. How does she go with that setup?

[theKM]

horrible weather, and although it was snowing it was calm enough for a fly... so I thought I'd try out my revised hatcam rig while flying the titan...


http://vimeo.com/2784571

[Danimal]

Hears a pic of my Mini T. I love this little heli it fly's really well. I've made a few mods to it But I'm still running the stock motor and ESC. Full Kasama head, MicroHeli swash and if you look really close you can see the blue CNC tail drive gear of the MicroHeli front Shaft, Gear and Pulley Set. I had to replace to stock one after a boom strike. I really like this setup better. Metal front pulley and blue CNC gear runs soother and quitter. I also added a one off custom brass boom brace. A friend has a machine shop and let me come in and play one night. Spider Gear to help soften those inevitable hard landings. The latest thing I trying is a set of Thunder Power 328 mains. I had been running Radix but I like these a little better. A slightly bigger disk, stiffer blade give the Mini T a tighter feel.

[theKM]

those TP blades look interesting... may try out a pair next time, although cosmetically flawed radix blades are a touch cheaper at $33

[Danimal]

These TP blades are defonetly worth a try. They give a little bit quicker response because of less blade flex. The direction changes are lightning fast with less washout. The more I fly them the more I like them.

[theKM]

These TP blades are defonetly worth a try. They give a little bit quicker response because of less blade flex. The direction changes are lightning fast with less washout. The more I fly them the more I like them.are they really stiffer?... the radix blades seem to be little planks with no give at all.

[Danimal]

Yes they really are stiffer no kidding. I figured the bets way I could demonstrate it for you is with a little experiment. So I mounted a Thunder Power and a Radix blade side by side on a blade balancer. Then mounted the blade balancer on an old paint stand I had. Them I hung a NiCd starter battery off the end of each blade. You can see that the Radix blade flexes more. The test is a bit unfair though. Since I placed the battery packs the same distance from the tip on both blades. The TP blades being longer puts them at a disadvantage because the weight is out further from mounting hole. But they still have less deflection.

[theKM]

nice job! I guess they are stiffer then! ...nothing like removing all doubt by supplying a little proof :)


One thing I wish that was made out of carbon was the landing gear... 20°F today cracked my landing gear with a little heavier than usual landing. May knock up some carbon gear for myself.

[theKM]

...reckon I might mention your little test on the next episode of the stick too! ;)

[Danimal]

OK now you've got my curiosity up. What is "The Stick Too"?:confused: I did a quick search hear on Crackroll but didn't find anything.

[theKM]

OK now you've got my curiosity up. What is "The Stick Too"?:confused: I did a quick search hear on Crackroll but didn't find anything.
my avatar... the right stick (http://therightstick.com) :)

[Danimal]

OK now I get it!:stickpoke:
Cool guess I'll go spend a little time checking out you site now.:clap:

[theKM]

OK now I get it!:stickpoke:
Cool guess I'll go spend a little time checking out you site now.:clap:I'm the only one of the two of us that has an eggbeater flying, but will get more heli content over time.

[theKM]

BlingMail (tm)(c) arrive, so it looks like I get to play all Kasama-like this weekend. :)

[Danimal]

Sweet.
Your really going to like the new Kasama bling. Will you be posting some pict's?

[theKM]

Sweet.
Your really going to like the new Kasama bling. Will you be posting some pict's?
yup. reckon I'll write something up review style over at RCG. Here's a couple of pics from the first batch...

[theKM]

The head is on, and it really does fly smooth! I need a few more trimming flights, but it's certainly an improvement.

[Danimal]

Really nice job with your pictures. The head looks grate. I see you went for the more aggressive setup on the lower arms. But I can't tell how you've got the blade grip balls set. Its SOOO nice having all these tuning options with that head.

[theKM]

Thank man. The grip links are on the middle hole as they came. The closer hole to the grip seems like it would be more direct, but I left as is. Unsure if moving that one would change the responsiveness... does it?

[Danimal]

Moving the link will defonetly change the responsiveness of your heli. They are change the mixing ratio on the head. Its surprising how much difference moving that link in or out can make. When you get it dialed in start playing with the different settings to fit your flying stile. Moving them in will I found actually gave my Mini a more tame fill. Moving them all the way out made it less stable in a hover but really snappy for more aggressive flying.

[theKM]

nice. I might drop the mixing in my radio and bump that puppy out. Always better to get stuff done mechanically before turning to the radio. I need another tiny linkage though... thing about metal heads is that other things break. I fluffed it into the snow yesterday, and the metal link (not the plastic, which surprised me) going to the grips snapped.

[3d-wanna-b]

Just started my MT build and I must say this is a very nice kit... About the only thing I didnt like about the kit was the phillips head screws. I replaced all them with allen heads from http://www.hexcrews.com and they look much better.

[theKM]

Just started my MT build and I must say this is a very nice kit... About the only thing I didnt like about the kit was the phillips head screws. I replaced all them with allen heads from http://www.hexcrews.com and they look much better.
The Titan is a pretty groovy bird, and the hex screws would make it a little nicer. That site looks pretty groovy (although a little dysfunctional), reckon I'll look them up in the future. Good find.

[theKM]

Just put in a bunch of new parts and a few upgrades (green paddles, etc), and some maintenance against use (and abuse :rolleyes: )... hoping the sum total with increase the cyclic rates to make it all more flippy. Looking forward to the next re-maiden :cool:

[theKM]

like buttuh! ...much more flippy indeed.

[7wt]

I have a question for you guys with the Kasama head. If you had to do it over again, would ya? I have been looking at this or staying with the G Force stuff I have. The G Force head has been acting weird so it may come off. Ever since I put it on I have been having tracking problems.

[Danimal]

Your tracking problem might just be the plastic main hub. The stock plastic hub has been the cause of most tracking problems on the MT. I've read several post describing the exact same symptoms your experiencing. The head phasing in and out of tracking. The problem is that the hub will actually move a little back and forth on the shaft allowing it to go out of track. Especially when under a heavy load. The most common free fix for this problem is just a drop of CA glue on the shaft then reinstall the head. I'd suggest trying this first and see if it doesn't take care of your tracking issue.

[7wt]

I have the G Force metal head, not stock plastic but may go back to the stock plastic head. I think the G Force head is causing a vibration because of the softer o rings.

[Danimal]

Hmmm sorry about that . I must have misread.
Ya with the G-Force head you shouldn't be having that problem. Have you checked your featheringshaft O-rings (flapdampeners) ? A couple years ago I bought a G-Force head but have never even opened the packages. I was just looking at the O-rings that I got with it and they look like they could get damaged pretty easily. And if one of them got pinched it could defonetly cause a tracking problem.

[7wt]

Yea, the O rings are fine but I replaced them anyway. I think I might have found the problem. When I was tearing the thing apart I found the screw that hold the mixing arm on was slightly bent. Too bad I can't test it out now, I need to pick up a flybar cage then I can fly it again.

[theKM]

Yes they really are stiffer no kidding. I figured the bets way I could demonstrate it for you is with a little experiment. So I mounted a Thunder Power and a Radix blade side by side on a blade balancer. Then mounted the blade balancer on an old paint stand I had. Them I hung a NiCd starter battery off the end of each blade. You can see that the Radix blade flexes more. The test is a bit unfair though. Since I placed the battery packs the same distance from the tip on both blades. The TP blades being longer puts them at a disadvantage because the weight is out further from mounting hole. But they still have less deflection.My titan's now flying some ThunderPower blades, they're quite nice indeed!

...though I've also had a change in motor/pinion (changed to a Scorpion HK2221-8 as well as the blades), so I'll have to get some more radix's at some point to do a proper comparison :)

[Tubeheadz]

I been used SAB carbon fibers and Align pro woods on my Mini Titan with no tracking problems. I also use the plastic TT spacers.
Got some serious air time today absulutely Zero breeze here today and was holding hands free hover for as long as I wanted.